disarmonia rules

[pyramazekeyboardist]

This band is still in my cd player. I can' even explain how awesome this is. It's like the metal gods answered my prayers. In my oppinion, this buries APP.

[Misanthropic]

exactly. the melodic death-hungry metalheads from all around the world prayed.... and we got our answer....

[Scarved]

yes!!! i listened to it more than ten times last night!! crazy!!

[J Mann]

It is an absolutely stunning piece of music, it has every element of music that i enjoy in it. However I am still not sure which I enjoy more Nebularium or Fragments.

Ettore Rigotti is a god(keyboards, drums, guitars and clean vocals).

[Kirurgisti]

No, it isn't as good as APP. Fragments is perfectly produced, but there are no famous Gothenburg-melodies to be heard. Ok, there are some, but they don't equal the melodies for example In Flames has made... I like them more than these silly keyboard melodies or boring riffs. The choruses are also weak, whereas all the clean vocals on APP were perfect... Fragments is a good album thought, I like the style and the production.

[needled24seven]

No, it isn't as good as APP. Fragments is perfectly produced, but there are no famous Gothenburg-melodies to be heard. Ok, there are some, but they don't equal the melodies for example In Flames has made... I like them more than these silly keyboard melodies or boring riffs. The choruses are also weak, whereas all the clean vocals on APP were perfect... Fragments is a good album thought, I like the style and the production.all I see you do is bitch about this and that and seriously you have no clue what youre talking about. For one this cd kills anything in flames has ever done or for that matter ever do and secondly the choruses are just so original and very well executed, not to mention they sound awsome. As for the boring key melodies and riffs comment, well I dont think I even need to bring up how stupid you sound on this one. :rolleyes:

have a nice day

[J Mann]

all I see you do is bitch about this and that and seriously you have no clue what youre talking about. For one this cd kills anything in flames has ever done or for that matter ever do and secondly the choruses are just so original and very well executed, not to mention they sound awsome. As for the boring key melodies and riffs comment, well I dont think I even need to bring up how stupid you sound on this one. :rolleyes:

have a nice day

IMO DM has made music superior to everything soilwork has done. However bashing In Flames melodies, of the like seen on tracks like Stand Ablaze or Biosphere is going a little over the top. those epic melodies were some that defined the genre in its early years, and allthough DM is injecting some much needed life into the genre now their guitar melodies at least lack the originality that IF along with others produced when the sound first came into existence.

[needled24seven]

Lets get this straight since it seems you need a bit of clarification..in no way was I ever bashing In Flames. Capeche? Its just obvious to me that Soilwork(tcm, app), DM (fragments) has better musicianship and its also blatenly obvious to me that they have better songwriting/composition skills than any IF material. thats really besides the fact I just enjoy both bands music more. Now I really do like IF but if you take away their signature catchy melodies then theyre nothing special and considering all this their lasting apeal just is'nt as great.

[Kirurgisti]

all I see you do is bitch about this and that and seriously you have no clue what youre talking about. For one this cd kills anything in flames has ever done or for that matter ever do and secondly the choruses are just so original and very well executed, not to mention they sound awsome. As for the boring key melodies and riffs comment, well I dont think I even need to bring up how stupid you sound on this one. :rolleyes:


Just exactly what the hell is your problem? Do you really expect that everyone has to like this cd just because you think it's perfect? Narrow-minded and ignorant people around here. Soilwork and DM are far behind In Flames when it comes to music-writing.

[needled24seven]

I've seen enough posts of yours(not only on this site but on ultimate metal as well) to know all you do is bitch. You seem to be so narrow minded that you cant even possibly like any music.

[Kirurgisti]

I've seen enough posts of yours(not only on this site but on ultimate metal as well) to know all you do is bitch. You seem to be so narrow minded that you cant even possibly like any music.

I think you're the one who has to go home and grow up if you can't take that much criticism. I already said I like this album, what the hell do I need to say to make you happy?

[needled24seven]

:rolleyes:

[Kirurgisti]

And I think it's you who is narrow-minded here, if you can't find any flaws in albums that you like. I can find flaws in this DM cd, but does it mean that I can't enjoy it? I find some flaws in almost every album I own, but does it mean that "I can't even possibly like any music"? Fragments is musically a bit simplistic for my taste, but it also has some good solos and choruses there and there. I don't mind the clean vocals, but I like it more when guitars are the leaders, not the vocals. You can't find any riffs on Fragments that equal the riffs...say... on In Flames's "Jotun" or "Stand Ablaze", can you? To prevent any misunderstandings, this is just MY OPINION.

I think you should try and learn to be more tolerant and not to call people stupid just because they disagree with you. And could you specify just where I have been "bitching" at the ultimate metal forum?

[needled24seven]

Fragments is musically a bit simplistic for my tasteI don't mind the clean vocals, but I like it more when guitars are the leaders :lol: is this kid joking?


as for the bitching, well for one the skyfire board and im sure theyre plenty of others but thats just the most recent.

[needled24seven]

You can't find any riffs on Fragments that equal the riffs...say... on In Flames's "Jotun" or "Stand Ablaze", can you? To prevent any misunderstandings, this is just MY OPINION.

I really hate to burst your bubble but that really awsome melody in jotun is just for the most part arrpegations based off simple basic bar chords but all that aside its still my fav IF song. listen to songs like red clouds and than you might start to comprehend where im coming from. You can have your own opinion that was seriously never my point in the first place but it seems you only bring negative shit up like 99% of the time. and for the record fragments is way more complexe from a musicial standpoint than IF material. It simple: better musicianship that is more tightly played.

[Kirurgisti]

I really hate to burst your bubble but that really awsome melody in jotun is just for the most part arrpegations based off simple basic bar chords but all that aside its still my fav IF song. listen to songs like red clouds and than you might start to comprehend where im coming from.

I'm not talking about some arrpegations or simple bar chords or other theory shit. Forget about scales and notes. If you could forget all that shit it surely would be easier to understand what is truly complex. You don't need to know notes to hear what's complex and what's not. That's of course my opinion, but that bridge melody is nothing compared to IF melodies. It's not memorable, it's not innovative, it's written before a thousand times (but I must admit, it's the best part of that song). I could compose millions of that kind of riffs, but not ones like the main riff of Jotun. I'm not sure, if you were talking about that riff, but if I remember correctly, that song was full of nu-metal riffs.

You can have your own opinion that was seriously never my point in the first place but it seems you only bring negative shit up like 99% of the time. and for the record fragments is way more complexe from a musicial standpoint than IF material. It simple: better musicianship that is more tightly played.

Yes I try and bring up the negative stuff. If it's a good album, it's easier to point out the negative stuff. I don't understand why you are so upset. Don't you ever notice anything bad in the good albums you have? Must be quite a dreamland.

DM guys may play well but that doesn't impress me. There are thousands of bands that play well, so fast solos can't impress me as well as good riff-writing skills. There is nothing complex in Fragments except from the solos. Just listen to Morgue of Centuries. The riffs in that song are the consept of simple. And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I just think that complex stuff is better. So yes, this kid is serious. You say DM is better and I say IF is better. OK. That's fine. But don't come whining next time you don't agree with me.

[Kirurgisti]

as for the bitching, well for one the skyfire board and im sure theyre plenty of others but thats just the most recent.

Oh, you didn't like it when I bashed the new Skyfire album? I think it was just an honest opinion. Oh, okay, I get it. It's "bitching" everytime you say something bad about a band at it's own board. Well damn, I must be quite a bitcher :finger:

[needled24seven]

I can find tons of negative things about certain albums but thats not all I talk about. I dont mind your thoughts on the new skyfire cd but then you brought up a bunch of other crap that made no sense at all. plus I don't worry about theory but when you bring up whats complexe you need to understand thats different from SONGWRITING skills. I dont know where youre hearing a lot of melodies like the ones in red clouds but please inform me. also I think you need to learn what nu-metal is. but seriously I'm starting to tire of this conversation you obviously don't get it and never will.:o I'm not sure if you even like music to tell you the truth.

[Addicted To Death]

Guys, seriously, let's not fight about who's better and get back on topic. And that is how good DM is. Period. Otherwise we'll have to close this thread. Thanks! :)

[jesterben]

someone said: "DE GUSTIBUS NON DISPUTANDUM EST" :spinning:

respect for every opinion!

[the_dying]

someone said: "DE GUSTIBUS NON DISPUTANDUM EST" :spinning:

respect for every opinion!


Heard it in many languages now :viking:

[needled24seven]

Guys, seriously, let's not fight about who's better and get back on topic. And that is how good DM is. Period. Otherwise we'll have to close this thread. Thanks! :)I dont know why everyone thinks this is a "which band is better" fight but I was just stating personal prefrences towards soilwork and dm and if he likes IF better thats fine with me. The thing is i've only seen him say negative things about cds and the statements make no sense at all. Like stating this cd is drivin by clean vox insteed of guitar. although he did mention he thought the cd was good and thats prolly the most positive thing he has ever said. Not that it even really mattered that much in the first place. :lol: Oh, well.. Hopefuly we can get back on topic and start talking about how much fragments kicks ass again. :D

[Addicted To Death]

just my luck! Get paid and want to purchase the cd and The End goes out of stock! :!@#$:

[jesterben]

just my luck! Get paid and want to purchase the cd and The End goes out of stock! :!@#$:

what does it mean "go out of stock"??? :(

[heartwork]

what does it mean "go out of stock"??? :(
they don't have any copies of the cd anymore.

[jesterben]

ooooh.....it sounds like good news from Chicago!!!! :devil:

[Jester Jake]

just my luck! Get paid and want to purchase the cd and The End goes out of stock! :!@#$:


Dude just go to METAL HAVEN on belmont/broadway, best metal store out anywhere. I got my copy there.

[Addicted To Death]

Dude just go to METAL HAVEN on belmont/broadway, best metal store out anywhere. I got my copy there.


Oh yeah! God i'm retarded sometimes! :P

[ShadowOfFire]

WAIT! What about Skyfire.. considering they are my favorite band and I'm a usual over at the Skyfire boards on UM. Anyway... Disarmonia Mundi > Soilwork. In my oppinion. I also agree with Kirurgisti about the riffs and melodies in great classic In Flames songs like Jotun, The Jester Race, I mean amazing stuff right there. \m/ \m/

[Addicted To Death]

This is some truly amazing and inspiring music! You guys did a helluva job! I can't stop listening to it! :D

[razorlives]

i real was'nt praying for it thats ok