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mmtutti
11-09-2001, 06:33 PM
kool, apparently I just won in the Iron Maiden caption contest. that's the second time already. too bad they don't give out any prizes, I'd be rich and famous by now.

it's a picture of Bruce taking a gigantic leap. my caption was "spare a coin for an ex-leper? I'm just hoppin' along, mindin' my own business..." yes, a Monty Python gag.

the first one showed a picture of Nicko sniffing a sock, with a really sullen look on his face. I mused something in the lines of "uh, the things they make me do for the pictures for the damn caption contest..."

mmtutti
12-18-2001, 08:22 PM
hear ye, hear ye. I have decided to make this my Official Announcement Thread, so as not to clutter up the board any further.

so.

lo and behold, I finally took to crafting a renewed website @ mmtutti.cjb.net (http://mmtutti.cjb.net). not everything is there yet, but you may feast your ears on some uncanny poetry and other verbal acrobatics expertly performed by the court jester (Yours Truly). later on we shall hear monologues on philosophical issues. the site may get a bit technical, so make sure your browsers are up to par. meaning, no Netscape.

I don't rightly know if all of it can be called poetry as such, more like abstract dark thoughts put in a form vaguely reminiscent of poetry. but perhaps all poetry could be called just that... call 'em what you will, 'necrospirituals' is the word I use. also available is a select handful of short stories. they are old, and don't fully represent my current style, but they're good for a few laughs.

allissson
12-18-2001, 09:07 PM
This is really good stuff you wrote. I hope you have it copyrighted. Do you plan to translate the Finnish writings?

mmtutti
12-18-2001, 09:50 PM
ah, thank you so much for your kind words, although you are not the first one to say so. I always get so abashed when praised in such a manner... I don't regard my works as anything special; it's just something I do. I've got no head for riffs, and I can't draw so much as a turd, but words give me solace.

there are those of us, whose grasp on the English language is truly commendable, such as our good friend Pakana, and yes, myself. and then there are those, whose use of English is nothing short of blasphemous. this is the way it is with us Finns, whereas the Swedish, methinks, appear to be an equally adept bunch.

personally I have always thought it an easy language, and a beautiful one. I still make my share of stupid mistakes that I don't even notice until later, but mostly it comes naturally to me, almost as if it was my second native tongue. (britannica.com also helps, as I oftentimes already know the word I want to use, and just need to verify the exact connotations...) half the time I find myself thinking in English. at times I do my writing initially in English, so yes, I have considered making translations of it all. I'll keep you posted. currently I have three ongoing book projects, but they're not really advancing much. I also study Latin and Norwegian on my own.

the reason for the necrospirituals being mostly in English is that it is easier for me to express myself in that language. a bit backwards, perhaps; but so shall it be written, so shall it be done. the necrospirituals, by the way, can usually be understood in several ways -- another advantage of using English.

the only thing I haven't quite figured out yet is the punctuation: you people seem to put your commas in all of the unholiest of places. for instance:

"the pen is smaller than the sword," he said.

why's the comma inside the quotation marks? you don't say the comma, it's just a means to separate the two sentences: the actual saying and the explaining part. according to my logic, the comma should therefore not be inside the quotation marks. I'll really have to look into the whole affair.

PS
everything is copyrighted the moment it is created. there is no need for any further legislation -- not even a disclaimer of any sort.

Baldur Vulgo
12-18-2001, 10:59 PM
Such brazen manner, excluding me from the "whose grasp on the English language is truly commendable" group :( I'd like to consider my understanding (and my usage) of the English language quite commendable indeed :/

I pity the fool who denies me that honour!!!

:)

mmtutti
12-18-2001, 11:46 PM
you demand satisfaction, eh? no need: my poor manners have indeed caused me to overlook your obvious excellence, good sir, and I stand corrected. I assume it is clear to everyone that you master the said language to an admirable extent, and I trust that my lack of wit, despite its appalling proportions, is nevertheless not enough to overshadow this observation.

but seriously, I was talking about the Finns at that point. I opined that the English skills of the Finnish vary greatly, and that the Swedes seem to be much more equal about it. but who am I to say?

and on another note: my role-playing consortium's website can be found @ ninjaopisto.cjb.net (http://ninjaopisto.cjb.net). I made that one too. the images were ripped from Immortal's Blashyrkh video...

allissson
12-19-2001, 01:17 AM
"you people seem to put your commas in all of the unholiest of places. for instance:
"the pen is smaller than the sword," he said.
why's the comma inside the quotation marks?"

mmtutti - I wish I had an answer to that but English is my native language and I've never known the reasoning behind that either. English has other useless things as well, like gender for example. I imagine english to be a diabolic language for a foreigner to learn.

I dunno - we need to address this question to our resident english teacher Baldur. So Baldur, why IS it that commas go into odd places?

Baldur Vulgo
12-19-2001, 03:08 AM
GA (or General American) incorporates commas and full stops on an arbitrary basis. When there's a pause in the spoken language you include a comma or full stop (depending on which is best suited) in writing. That's just the way it is.

In RP (Received Pronounciation - International English and general English as spoken in England) on the other hand there's a whole set of rules which I'm afraid I don't know to well. I can't seem to remember them right now anyway. Perhaps I'll get back to you in this matter...

mmtutti
12-20-2001, 07:01 PM
I admit being guilty of using US English for the most part, because that is the way I have come to learn it through television -- but British English is how it is supposed to be spoken... lately that thick American accent has begun to annoy me. whereas an American would go, "god damn! that thing's really big!" the cultivated Englishman might be content to remark, "I say, that is truly sizable." such a sense of inborn nobility appeals to me...

I am a true poet (and of the devil's party without knowing it, to quote Blake.)

Baldur Vulgo
12-20-2001, 08:35 PM
"I say, that is truly sizable."

Hahaha, well I find that noble upper class English quite ridiculous to be honest. Whenever I've spoken to people employing such accents I just feel like ripping their @#%$ vocal cords right out of their throats. Ordinary people in England would never speak in that manner. That is reserved for the proud (and few) at the royal court...

Fighting for the common man! :lol:

mmtutti
12-20-2001, 09:26 PM
woe be unto me, as I have evidently been born into the wrong world, the wrong time... in my past life I must have been a British lord. perhaps from there derive also my lukewarm personality, my contempt for the "common man", and my blatant disregard for financial matters, aswell as my fascination with ostentatious names.

Baldur Vulgo
12-20-2001, 11:20 PM
:lol:

allissson
12-21-2001, 06:39 PM
Correction - English people say "Fuckin' 'ell". (So do I). My husband is English and I've never once heard him say "I say".
"Bollocks" is another popular one.
When I am driving it gets much more extreme though. I call people some unspeakable names on the road.

aboriginaali
12-22-2001, 07:27 AM
We should have "Vitr" arguing with us! where is he BTW?

allissson
12-23-2001, 08:35 PM
Gone to parents for christmas. Vitr will be around soon.

mmtutti
12-30-2001, 10:27 PM
use of expletives is grossly overrated. a nobleman would never use such coarse language... fie, I say, fie! you are all beneath me!

I thought Vitr was a she.

vitr
01-02-2002, 05:26 PM
:lol: I am laughing my socks off here! :lol:

(yes, I am a she, and back from hols, I have a new place to move to tonight as I left the freak house and it's sheep behind before xmas. (yeeaaah!)

Well, I am by blood one quarter middle class, but mainly working class, ie. a job is something that requires a skill rather than sitting at a desk, and if you don't get your hands dirty occasionally then you're a bit of a pansy, according to my Dad.

None of my family have ever pronounced a letter H at the start of a word, and only when I left home did I realise what a peasant accent I had, and nowadays I try and speak comprehensibly, but I've never reduced myself to saying aaaarfter and baaarth instead of after and bath. I do say arse though, (it has an R in it ;) )

When I went away to a posh college everyone spoke like the Queen and I spent the first week pissing myself laughing, I didn't think people really spoke like that. :eek: :lol: The next three years were pretty miserable with no mates, as a lot (but not all) posh wan.kers are quite shallow and self-oriented. Having a rich daddy is not the best start in life IMO, it can make you a brat.

But the average English person would never use "splendid chaps" I say, golly gosh, etc., most would say aaah fukkit or something. About half and half for bath-baarrrth.

mmtutti
01-02-2002, 06:07 PM
hmph. then it remains up to me alone to rebuild the Empire of old... I still remember Tarkin! I shall crrush your rebellion with one swift strroke.

a horse! a kingdom for a horse! a high one, preferably...

allissson
01-04-2002, 12:16 AM
......and you are a noble enough man to do just that too :)

aboriginaali
01-04-2002, 03:14 PM
aaah fukkit!! (aaarfter Baaarth)

Hittavainen
01-04-2002, 04:59 PM
Abo! Where is the fukking music video!!!

aboriginaali
01-07-2002, 03:21 PM
I´m working on it but i have felt myself a bit lazy during the last few days, so we´ll have to wait for some time.

mmtutti
01-09-2002, 11:26 PM
guess what? I am drunk. oh yes, I am delightfully drunk as we speak. for the first time in my life. today seemed like a good day to do so, so I got myself a good ole bottle o' whisky (the cheapest brand I could find): it's all but gone now. I'm listening to Napalm Death, for which I have recently developed an affinity.

but why, Lord Mikael Sudenmoinen, I hear you ask; why would you do such a thing? well, simply because I have decided to quit writing. you heard me. don't get me started on that one: suffice to say that I've been working on the same projects for five years now, and I've gotten nowhere. if they were ever to work out, it would have happened already. I just don't care anymore. I can't concentrate on anything anymore. and being ever so slightly manic-depressive doesn't exactly help either.

allissson
01-10-2002, 01:27 AM
Well.........with regards to finally indulging the viina, congratulations, hali and all that :)

Regarding napalm death, I don't really know what to say except maybe..........better you than me? ;)

But to quit writing!?!? That is sad news indeed. :( Maybe you will take a sabbatical from it and go back to it another time? But to say that's it, you're done with it, no more, never again..........even you cannot know that for sure. You have a real talent there. :) But for now, for whatever your reasons are you do what you've got to do :)

wenduhl
01-10-2002, 02:24 AM
...Master William broke his feather...doom! Doom for us all! I'm not amused...I'm...sssshocked...really! Deeply depressed I wanted to throw me in my sword but as I cut my thumb I decided better to drink a good ol' mug, too...;)

mmtutti
01-10-2002, 10:54 PM
"Regarding napalm death, I don't really know what to say except maybe..........better you than me?"

*shrugs* whatever. if it gets my feet going and/or induces intense playing of air drums (for which I am notorious), then it's good enough for me. Diatribes is one of my faves. and I have thing for metal of the early Nineties in general...

allissson
01-11-2002, 01:53 AM
:) aww, I'm just teasing ya mmtutti ;) but on a more serious note, if you like early 90's metal, I can recommend Sentenced from that era. It's a bit coarse but great nonetheless. :)

mmtutti
01-11-2002, 04:47 PM
been there, done that. that's how I began my "metal age". I started late, but I've made up for it in enthusiasm.

lately I've been thinking about delving into early black metal. black metal has always left me cold (and not in the good way), but some of the originators were pretty innovative -- Dark Throne and the like. I have always felt a closeness with Burzum, both musically and ideologically.

wenduhl
01-12-2002, 02:35 AM
...so are you visiting churches sometimes? Carrying torches and jerry-cans?...:evil:

mmtutti
01-12-2002, 04:24 AM
"True Neutral characters do not support good or evil, law or chaos. Some actively try to maintain a balance between these forces and will switch sides in a conflict to support the underdog, but these people are extremely rare. Most true neutral characters tend more toward apathy, and are just trying to survive. They usually obey laws because of the consequences of breaking them, but may break them if they are confident they can get away with it. Although they will not intentionally harm others for their own benefit, they also will not go out of their way to help someone unless it is beneficial to them as well."

Hittavainen
01-12-2002, 06:38 AM
Oh, knock it off, for Ukko's sake, I'm in a laskuhumala an the bars are not open any more you know. So i'm not in condition to take any opinion about towards any political or ideological questions.
Im thinking of a last change to go in Hämeenlinna to stormbringer 2002 and im looking for people who are goin from Hämeenlinna to Tampere in the night(13.01.2002, klo 00.00. ->). Because a friend of mine lives in tampere and i really want to go to strombirninger2002.
Thank yotu!!

vitr
01-12-2002, 08:53 PM
mmtutti, ask yourself why you need an ideal to follow?

And if you really do need a shepherd, are those Nazi's the right mentors for you?

Presonally, I tend to just be myself (and who you are is inside of you, not in someone else's music any more than it's in a book.) and if the world doesn't like it, it can stick it's head up it's bum. :p

mmtutti
01-12-2002, 11:20 PM
I never said I have adopted Varg Vikernes's beliefs. I follow no one. a good many of my beliefs resemble his, yes, but not all -- and those beliefs were mine long before I even heard of Varg Vikernes. as far as race goes, it is something I am in the custom of referring to as EVVK (ei voisi vähempää kiinnostaa, could not care less).

and whatever his opinions may be, at least he makes sense, which is a lot more than most people ever manage to do. go on, have a look at Vargsmål, found in various forms and locations on the Internet.

"Varg hopes to create new Pagan fairytales and mythologies to repair the damage caused when Christianity eradicated them. Stories hold the key to opening the door to that freer world of old, and through both music and the written word Varg will aim to rekindle in the imagination the Lost Wisdom which dogma destroyed." -- www.burzum.com

vitr
01-13-2002, 07:41 PM
And so did Hitler make sense, to the Nazi's. :rolleyes: x 1,000,000

I have nothing more to say about this.

mmtutti
01-13-2002, 08:17 PM
oh, how I so hate it when people just close their ears and minds and refuse to have a civilized conversation... fine, be that way. I'm not saying I agree with Varg Vikernes, I'm saying I understand his views, and his justifications for them. I'd like to emphasize that I do not share his Nazi sentiments, but the Pagan values, the ones that his music makes a point of delivering. that is all, thank you so much for listening, good night.

mmtutti
01-14-2002, 04:01 AM
I must say, being drunk is not all that it's made out to be. I didn't even experience that famed hangover phenomenon. I mean, I was definitely drunk, couldn't walk straight and all that, but my mind stayed perfectly clear the whole time. I slept for four hours and felt completely normal again: no headache, no dizziness, no nothing. that was somewhat disappointing... I wanted the whole deal, otherwise it just isn't of any use as a catharsis. I wonder if I should do it again... but that is just what I am afraid of: once I start, I won't stop there. soon I'll be drinking whenever I get the chance.

allissson
01-14-2002, 08:48 PM
You've got Finnish blood in your veins dear, so don't fight the inevitable. ;)