View Full Version : Pls, give me some advise!!!
Serenity
05-09-2002, 02:20 PM
I have a fifteen-year -old cousin who´s going to have his confirmation next summer. As a gift I desided to record him some good finnish metal music, cause he´s in the state of age when he takes influences very openly and he´s lately been interested to metal music.
Which Moonsorrow song might suit to a boy of that age who listens mostly Metallica and Stratovarius? I don´t give a @#%$ if he likes my present or not, but I´m just thinking I might get him to like some good stuff :)
I´m considering Sankarihauta or Kylän päässä. And maybe Pakanajuhla isn´t a clever desicion considering what confirmation is about, I still have to deal with his parents after that :)
thekjide
05-09-2002, 03:13 PM
I think Pakanajuhla is actually a good idea... you don't give a @#%$ about what it says, he probably won't understand the lyrics anyway (exept if your family is finnish and can understand the title). I reckon it's the most easy for a "new-metalhead" (or non-initiated to pagan) to listen and like.
Maybe you should try Finntroll to start with... even my mother seems to apreciate Midnattens Widunder, so it's quite easy to appreciate, if you don't know pagan metal well.
But for Moonsorrow, I'd say Sankarihauta or Aurinko ja kuu...
Oh, and don't try Nokturnal Mortum. Once I tried to convert someone to pagan metal and I played him On the Moonlight Path (from To the Gates of Blasphemous Fire) and he ran away... :p
Laine
05-09-2002, 03:37 PM
Record the whole album(s) to make sure he realizes that you (naturally) want him to especially pay attention to Moonsorrow. I started listening with Pakanajuhla, so some catchy and not-a-10-minute-epic song could do fine.
allissson
05-09-2002, 04:21 PM
First of all, does this guy understand what he is about to do and WHY he's doing it? Perhaps the best gift anyone could give him would be to talk him out of having this confirmation thing in the first place.
Given the circumstances, I think Pakanajuhla is an excellent choice. And Aurinko ja Kuu should be included anyway just because it's such a beautiful song. And what the hell, put Pakanavedet II on there as well. And supply him with lyrics ;)
Baldur Vulgo
05-09-2002, 08:21 PM
I have been "confirmed" too :lol: Gifts rock! Don't give a @#%$ what it is for. I was dead drunk in the church anyway :lol:
Laine
05-09-2002, 10:48 PM
I could have gone to a confirmation camp (-school, whatever) last summer, but as I would have bought cd's that I'd probably now sell away with the gift-money, it would be pointless (not that confirmation isn't pointless anyway, but credits for music shopping are not). And it's too late by now. Next summer might be still possible, but I will (naturally) be studying very very hard in lukio so I can't go to church. :p
They have this confirmation crap in Finland? :eek: It's virtually unheard of in England.
I love Strato, and I loved Sankarihauta from hte first time I heard it... :)
As for the lyrics, being a non-Finnish-speaker I couldn't say... ;)
allissson
05-10-2002, 04:46 PM
Laine, no amount of CD's are worth compromising yourself for. To their hell with their confirmation gig, lukio is more important. :)
Laine
05-10-2002, 05:33 PM
Are you sure? :p
Nah, I couldn't stand religion classes (now that I think about it) where I was absent-minded, would be insane to go to some brainwashing-center to be beaten in the head with the bible. We do have one or two of those at home, I can study them if I want...
allissson
05-10-2002, 06:00 PM
tell you what, if i was made to go to some bullshit camp like that I'd just run off into the woods and smoke pot the whole time.
Serenity
05-10-2002, 06:37 PM
I think my cousin is exited about the thing, he gets money for his moped and he goes to this walking in the bushes -camp, he likes sports so that´s the way...His friends are going too and in that stage of age you put the experiences with your friends first usually.
But I think my cousin has a great attitude towards it all, he plays and watches a lot of ice-hockey and that´s the reason he wanted to do all his church-evenings (You have to do about 6 of them I think) on X-mas time and he did 4 of them in a few days just to get the marks he needed :) and then he could go and play ice-hockey on sundays instead of a church.
I did confirmation too when I was 14, but I went to an evening class, I couldn´t stand the thought about the camp. I wouldn´t have done the confirmation if it weren´t my grandmother who would have had an heartattack if I didn´t. After that I have separated myself from the church in all quiet so that she doesn´t have to know about that.
VauhtiParoni
05-11-2002, 12:56 PM
Hey Allissson, that´s exactly what the teens are doing in their bullshit camps! :lol:
Laine
05-11-2002, 01:04 PM
They seem to be like Sodom nowadays from what I've heard.
allissson
05-13-2002, 06:59 AM
:lol: well they've gotta have SOMETHING to make it more bearable. :lol: How long does this camp last for?
VauhtiParoni
05-13-2002, 10:12 AM
A week I´d think.
allissson
05-13-2002, 06:00 PM
A week!? That's about 7 days too long. It's probably just one big mindfuck. They probably have all this cool @#%$ to do, slide as many short and often brainwash sessions in as possible to get these people to associate the christianity with good things. I can't believe that parents let their kids go to this paska.
edited because I don't believe in censorship :p
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Baldur Vulgo
05-13-2002, 06:12 PM
Nah, those camps are not very "religious" at all. All we did was drink beer and listen to heavy metal for 4 days. I got so drunk at one point that I "accidently" called the priest "din jesus hora" (you whore of jesus) :lol:
He turned the other cheek though; as the religious man he is, hahahaha....
Laine
05-13-2002, 07:07 PM
:lol:
allissson
05-14-2002, 12:52 AM
"din jesus hora" (you whore of jesus)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
That is SO fitting because that's exactly what a priest is!! Good one!! you should get drunk more often if you come out with stuff like that :lol:
:lol: I love it!!!! :lol:
Baldur Vulgo
05-14-2002, 02:42 AM
"That is SO fitting because that's exactly what a priest is!!"
:lol: Well that is in fact true! :lol:
"Good one!! you should get drunk more often if you come out with stuff like that"
The thing with me is that, be it to a christian of whatever, I don't act rude or condescending towards people. It's just not in my nature. When dead-drunk things like this has slipped out of me though. I actually regret it as I don't think anyone deserves that kind of treatment. Yup, I'm boring, but that's me...
I see your point though :) I have my moments when I find that kind of childish behaviour fun as well :)
:lol: So I love it twice as much. ;)
That's why I never get drunk. I would be either giggly and juvenile and squeaky, or so caustic I would floor anyone I have any hidden dislike for. Besides, there is no-one in this world I would trust to look after me if I got drunk. I have a real paranoia with vulnerability...
vladtroll
06-01-2002, 04:10 PM
Hmm..
interesting I have never been to a camp before..
Just sitting for the pc hole the day and playing some drumms..hehe
allissson
06-06-2002, 07:05 AM
"That's why I never get drunk. I would be either giggly and juvenile and squeaky"
.......and I have to drink to PREVENT myself from getting that way :lol:
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