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[Baldur Vulgo]

There's no action here anymore it seems. What up duuuuuuuudes? We need to get the conversations going again. Got anything interesting to say? Well then say it! :)

[VauhtiParoni]

My lips are stitched! :x

Going to Tuska, Stefan?

[Baldur Vulgo]

Yeah it looks like it right now and I really do hope I will be able to come. The only problem is money - but that should be taken care of quite easily....

The beer will flow bro...hehehe :lol:

[thekjide]

Yes, I've notice that the forum has been very quite for a while now.

But if it would help waking up everyone here, I'll ask a really stupid question to the band:
Where do you (you=Moonsorrow) find your epic battle sound samples you put in some songs?
For example, there is a battle in Kuin Ikuinen (4'53'' to 5'40'',to be precise) and a bit in Sankarihauta (5'09'').

I ask this stupid question because I found out there was EXACTLY the same battles going on in some other songs which has nothing to do with Moonsorrow. It is in The Forgotten Ages of Victory and Black Raven (both by Nokturnal Mortum) and Flesh and Blood (by Summoning) and plenty more which I don't remember.
So there it is, I was just wondering why there is always the same battle in plenty of black metal songs.
And since everybody seems to be dead, something had to be said.

[VauhtiParoni]

I´d believe all of us have ripped those samples from the almighty Braveheart, because the battles in that movies are long and without soundtraKc music, so it´s very easy to put them into the songs.

[Hittavainen]

Naah, same problem with the Shaman forum. People are propably just drinking mead in the forests and parks, there's so warm outside. (And i'm a fukking SiWarrior :mad: )
Hehee, the battles in most of the metal albums are propably from...ah, you know where. :)

[vitr]

Humppa rules! :D

Nothing else to say, except one of these days i will finish the profile thing and post it.... ;)

[allissson]

I'm still here - I have been absent for a week because I've been in New Orleans but I just got home so I'll be back in action :) I'd NEVER desert you guys! btw.....I did have a chance to "promote" Moonsorrow a bit while there ;) It's weird, the most unlikely people went nuts over the music. But then, Louisiana has its own unique form of folk music so I guess people are more likely to appreciate it there. :)

[VauhtiParoni]

Wow! Moonsorrow´s driving wild jazz musicians, wife-beaters and yambalaya eaters! Cool! :lol:

[Hittavainen]

And when they notice that there's english lyrics in the CD and read them, they'll come to Finland with their trucks loaded with men with guns, torches and dungforks. :lol:
When they find you, they'll hang you in a tree.

[VauhtiParoni]

Most probably.

... and no offense, Alllison. :)

[allissson]

:) none taken VP. However, jazz is not the "folk" music I was referring to - it's Cajun music. ;) I despise jazz. :x

And, since Voimasta ja Kunniasta is available from Amazon.com, getting the CD is not a problem for them.

[Hittavainen]

...and don't mind about that -S-S- thingy, it doesn't mean that i'm a nazi or something. "Sotaisat Sivarit" means something like warlike hippies or antimilitarist warriors. :p
I gotta remember not to use it in english forums again...

[Laine]

Jazz police is paid by J.P. Geddy
Jazz is paid by J.P. Geddy II

[TrollhorN]

Jazz isn´t dead, it just smells funny.

-Frank Zappa, 1984

ps: VP,as you should know that Cajun-thing: Don´t you remember anything of that higly interesting "roots of jazz" (or something) -course we had to take in ´96-´97 while in Pop/Jazz Conservatory? :D

[aboriginaali]

Cajun food rules too!
btw. allissson,could you please promote us to the people that have loads of pick-up trucks equipped with rifle racks because they kick ass!
I would just love to make a documentary film about religious and militant rednecks.

I have lots of relatives in US. but unfortunately most of them are some fuc.kin mormones, playboys or "stars in Hollywood"(unemployed drunks).

[allissson]

Hittavainen - only ignorant people would think that means you're a nazi. :)

Laine - pardon me for asking but what in HELL are you talking about? Is that a song/band/whatever?

" VP,as you should know that Cajun-thing: Don´t you remember anything of that higly interesting "roots of jazz" (or something) -course we had to take in ´96-´97 while in Pop/Jazz Conservatory? "

AHHHHH......the penny drops.....now we know who was fuckin around when he should have been paying attention......

I figured you'd know what that music is Henri. It's very accordion-oriented. And I hope they didn't teach you that zydeco sh.it - that's a ghetto mutation of Cajun music. Cajun music as the roots of Jazz music..........now I wonder how they figure that. SOMEDAY I'd like to hear SOMEONE ;) take traditional Cajun music and put a metal edge to it. ;)

" Cajun food rules too!"

Yeah, it does :D

"could you please promote us to the people that have loads of pick-up trucks equipped with rifle racks because they kick ass!"

:lol: You mean in Florida? Already in progress.

"I would just love to make a documentary film about religious and militant rednecks."

Fine, you just come to work with me one day and you'll have more material to work with than you'll be able to cope with. Just make sure you don't use words with more than 4 or 5 letters when interviewing them ;)

"I have lots of relatives in US. but unfortunately most of them are some fuc.kin mormones, playboys or "stars in Hollywood"(unemployed drunks).'

MORMONS!?!? How the @#%$. did that come about? They are distant relatives I hope.

[VauhtiParoni]

Henu: Of course I knew that Cajun thing! I was present on that class more than you were!

Q: What do you get when cross-breeding a nigger and an octopus?

A: Don´t know but oh boy, doesn´t it harvest cotton fast!!! :lol:

[aboriginaali]

Yep, they are very distant relatives and they seem to change their religion about every 2nd year! I´m glad they don´t visit Finland too often.

[Laine]

Leonard Cohen's "Jazz Police".

[allissson]

"Q: What do you get when cross-breeding a nigger and an octopus?

A: Don´t know but oh boy, doesn´t it harvest cotton fast!!!"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Damned good joke there VP!

[mmtutti]

what, ran out of things to say, did you? frankly, I'm surprised it took you so long. I shall yet again endeavour to disturb your slumber. 'the teenage angst of a middle-aged twenty-year-old', I once described it.

I don't know if you've noticed or not, but I have kept mostly to myself recently. yet the absence of war does not mean peace, have no such misconception. I am in the middle of an existential crisis--you don't want to know more about it, trust me. besides, you've already got twenty people saying all the same mundane things I would say, so I don't think you really need me here. the one time I genuinely try to contribute, I am dismissed as a Nazi sympathizer and an idiot. truth be told, I took it as an insult to my intelligence. you seem to be under the impression that merely by proclaiming yourselves pagan you transcend all human fallacies. guess what: all you've really done is chosen your side, but you're still a part of the same old war--and the real question remains, why is the war there in the first place? it reminds me of the Jerry Springer show--I don't know who are the bigger losers, the guests or the audience. it always gets personal: "you're stupid!" "oh yeah? well you're ugly!"

there is the objective truth, and there is the subjective truth. the subjective truth is constructed and maintained by persons. to a person his own truth appears perfectly valid, but as far as the objective reality is concerned, his truth does not even exist. what, then, is the real truth?

consider this: is a prisoner who does not know he is prisoner truly a prisoner?

imprisonment is by definition limiting one's physical world, and the punishing nature of imprisonment is based on one's awareness that artificial limitations are being applied to one's freedom; but as long as the prisoner does not realize that any of this is taking place, is he still free? if the prisoner does not perceive his freedom being limited in any way, is he being punished at all? for all he knows, he is living a full life.

the situation must be examined both subjectively and objectively. an observer outside the context functioning as the prison would say that the prisoner indeed is a prisoner, whereas the prisoner would not feel so. so the prisoner is being wronged without any wrongdoing actually occurring. which of the observers is correct? which one has the right do decide of the prisoner's condition--the one with better knowledge of the situation, or the prisoner himself, as he is the one who primarily experiences his own world? should the situation be assessed from a macroscopic view, or from that of the subject? and if no one is being harmed, should the state of matters be left unaltered?

it is my strong opinion that subjective truths are nothing; they are false, they are pseudo-truths. though the prisoner may not feel the effect of his chains because they are longer than his usual operating distance, it does not undo the fact that the chains exist; if only the prisoner reached far enough, he would soon feel the tug of the chains, and his subjective pseudo-truth would come collapsing into the objective truth.

do you ever wonder why ice hockey players go along nicely and let themselves be confined in the penalty box after fouling, instead of raising hell or making a run for it? of course you don't... well I do. it's because they know it's a game, and sitting in the penalty box is a part of the game. people exhibit the very same behaviour in everyday life: they avoid breaking the rules in fear of punishment, and once they do break them, they accept that they must be punished for their misbehaviour. so life itself is a game. but if you went and told someone that life is a game, they would strongly disagree. they would resent the fact that they are mere pawns in a game of their own runaway creation, pawns that cannot move but in one direction. they are blind to alternative paths. they assume too much.

"I started to see people as little lonesome, water based, pink meat, life forms pushing air through themselves and making noises that the other little pieces of meat seemed to understand...I don't think I was 'mad', I was just confused."
--Devin Townsend (on his bipolar syndrome)

read Schopenhauer.

> To: mmtutti@yahoo.com
> Subject: Arthur Schopenhauer
> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:33:34 -0500
>
> Congrats on being the first Dead Philosopher adventure participant to
> receive Arthur Schopenhauer as the #1 result. You have achieved new levels of
> paranoia and pessimism.

[Hittavainen]

What's happening here? :rolleyes:
If you're talking about me and my signature, you should write a. more simple text and b. in finnish.

[mmtutti]

hi, my name is Mikael, and I have a bipolar disorder.

"In essence, this mood encourages an inflated self-esteem or sense of grandiosity. Moreover, as a result of obsessive reliance on the mood, sleep becomes less available to the person. They may even report needing fewer hours to feel rested."

true enough.

"Much of the attention and focus of the manic phase is distracted, or the person may seem too easily drawn to unimportant or irrelevant external things."

Monstrosity's Manic is a damn fine tune, by the way.

"Despite the deficit in attention, the person may show an increase in goal directed activity. This activity may involve --"

whatever; let's skip a little.

"Unfortunately, this activity may lead to excessive involvement in pleasurable activities that have a high risk component to them. In other words, the person engages in unrestrained buying sprees, sexual indiscretions or foolish business involvements. One of the markers for this illness is that rather than these feeling pleasurable to the person, there is a sense of hysteria to their focus on them."

guilty.

"...the major depressive syndrome of the illness manifests in a depressed or irritable mood most of the day, nearly every day, as indicated either by subjective account or observations by others."

there are those who call me Murky Mikael.

"In addition, there is a diminished interest or pleasure in all, or almost all, activities most of the day, nearly every day."

hmph.

"Similarly, insomnia or hypersomnia is also an issue for the person in a major depressive syndrome. The bipolar person may now show a psychomotor retardation that is significantly different from the psychomotor agitation of the manic phase of the illness."

righ...t.

"The effort it takes to perform daily activities may encourage feelings of worthlessness or excessive or inappropriate guilt nearly every day. In other words, they may borrow other's problems as their responsibility."

it wasn't me, it was the other guy.

"...As in the manic phase of the illness, the bipolar person may have a diminished ability to think or concentrate and show indecisiveness for seemingly insignificant decisions. However, in this stage, the person may complain about the issue whereas in the manic phase others may see the problem more clearly than the sufferer."

I dunno nuthin'.

"Most significantly, the person in the depressive stage of the illness may possess recurrent thoughts of death or have recurrent suicidal ideation without a specific plan, or have made a suicide attempt, or demonstrate a specific plan for committing suicide. All of these thoughts are of grave concern, as they indicate a lack of hope in something being able to improve their situation."

day in day out.

[allissson]

hmm.........seems I opened the wrong topic to read. o.....k

[mmtutti]

yes, thoughts are free as long as everyone thinks the same. cognitive dissonance, anyone?

[aboriginaali]

mmtutti! (the only walking dictionary on earth)
your phrases sound like lyrics of Slayer.
you are sooo intelligent.

ps. as Hittavainen would say: no offence of any kind! :)

[allissson]

Are we allowed to ask questions mmtutti?

[vladtroll]

Are u all sleaping or smth <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\"> ..
No one is alive anymore.. Except Allison..
All you guys are probably running in the forest with some axes, and swords..

[aboriginaali]

Oh yes, that´s been going on during the whole summer but unfortunetly the schools and jobs start tormenting us again so running drunk in the forest with swords and stuff has to end very soon, and maby this board will gain some activity.

So folks, what have you done during the summer?

[Hittavainen]

Boozing, kiljing and making some weird thing called lettu-metal. :p
And of course, rottening in some f'cking office and posting sh't to forums... :mad:

[Valkyrianvixen]

Nothing. And when I say nothing, I mean nothing. Did I mention that I did nothing?

[Laine]

I went kiljing into the forest once, lost my pants, shoes and keys in there. Can't afford another trip soon. But it probably was fun.

I bought lots of records. But not by Moonsorrow. So it doesn't count in here.

Found a nice old books store yesterday. Bought Taxi Driver and The Godfather III today. Just watched the former.

Conclusion: "Nothing"

Eagerly awaiting for my most important lukio experience to start next monday.

[vladtroll]

I went to the forest with my mother.
I draw some trees and my mother did too.
She also made some photo's.

www.webdeveloping.nl/upload/?9817265407 (http://www.webdeveloping.nl/upload/?9817265407)

I also went to dynamo saw finntroll.
I went to my sister who lives far away.
I went to a girl..to meet her..

and I did some internet stuff blabla I made www.vikingbattle.tk
and the same als
Hittiblabla:p sitting on forums.
Moonsorrow and viking forum :p .

and I am going to make some music with friends.
The vacation isn't over yet.

[Sami112]

I was in the forest drinking....oh yes, I'm still in here... :D

[Pakana]

Kewl. So you have a computer in the forest. :)

[VauhtiParoni]

Hey Hittavainen, what exactly is this "lettu-metal"? Something to do with pancakes? :)

[Hittavainen]

Muahhahhahhaa! You'll soon find out... :evil:

[Sami112]

Pakana: Yep :D that, and my trusty mead barrel :D

[allissson]

"I went kiljing into the forest once, lost my pants, shoes and keys in there. "

@#%$ Laine! You must be a crappy poker player!! ;)

"Eagerly awaiting for my most important lukio experience to start next monday. "

:) Do you know yet what courses you will be taking?

[vladtroll]

Ow yes..one thing I hated off the forest. I discovered the next day I had a bloodsucker(don't know the exact word for it, just an insect with a sort of white bag..) on my leg..
I am glad it's out of my poor leg.

[Laine]

"Too much kilju! It's what's done!" as the Horny Boys (a really bad kiljucore band from Lappeenranta) say. But we're not into drinking stories here, are we?

I have picked the courses for the first year as everybody had to do it (duh), but I have no idea what I will be having in the first period and certainly am not going to get any books in advance because I'd like to find out if any of the used books a "comrade" of mine is selling are still valid... (they make new "versions" of the lukio-books about every year it seems, and the previous "versions" can't of course be used anymore and you have to buy the "new" "version"... wonder what's the difference)

[Hittavainen]

Kiljucore! :lol:
Sounds like an interesting genre of music. :)

[Laine]

Check out hboys.cjb.net (http://hboys.cjb.net) for more info.

And actually nyarlathotep.xrs.net (http://nyarlathotep.xrs.net) too, if you're interested in the funny ways background images can affect fonts. (That be my homepage, and it used to look normal until now. Forgive the total lack of content.)

[vladtroll]

and yet again is everybody away now.
boozing or smth:) .
I wish I could have some drinks now.
But I think I am going to bed soon.

I played today and yesterday some nice covers of children of bodem, in flames and finntroll.:)

[Laine]

Lovely!

" New TENHI album at the end of the year
12.08.2002

The new album will carry the title "Väre" and will appear at the end of the year. Stylistically the album will carry on along the lines of the debut "Kauan" and lead the listener once again on a musical journey into the endless distance of Finland." (from the Prophecy website)


My first day in lukio:

10:00-10:45 - 'paperwork'
11:00-11:30 - introduction of teachers
11:30-12:00 - we 'introduced' ourselves. Everyone said their name and hobbies. Results: people who do nothing (~60%), people who practice sports (~30%), people who play an instrument (~10%). I'm not part of a minority, huzzah.
12:00-12:15 - food
12:30-??? - church service

Isn't that lovely too! But I do have a good reason for not being at the service: I was in another place (used records store). And as I am not a skilled enough wizard to be at two places simultaneously, it was COMPLETELY IMPOSSIBLE for me to attend the service. But I will always know the truth of our LORD and the fact that we Finns have been Christians for thousands of years, if not always.

[Laine]

...and yeah, if any of you has or knows somebody who has Tenhi's demo "Kertomuksia", and would be willing to sell/trade/copy it... guess the rest.

[allissson]

CHURCH SERVICE!?!? Is that a christian school or something? Who the @#%$ ever heard of a church service in school?
You did good to opt for truancy at that time.
So when is your first day of actual classes?

[Laine]

Today was the first day with classes... no real studying yet. It's kind of negative to have lukio in the same school as elementary (or 8th & 9th for me), because you already 'know' most of the people. So far there seem to be one visually distinguishable (black)metalhead in our school. Not even any silly goths and just one punk! The mass-culture eats even the subcultures the cause of which it's supposed to be! Evil!

But it's fun to go to church at the end of a stressing schoolday! Frees your mind from everything positive! Perhaps you even fall asleep. Seriously the church has to have somekind of secret deal with the schools for bringing kids into their rituals. Does Henri as a teacher know something about this?


ATTENTION MOONSORROW BOYS!

Will you ever release anything on vinyl? Would be nice!

[Valkyrianvixen]

"CHURCH SERVICE!?!? Is that a christian school or something? Who the @#%$ ever heard of a church service in school?
You did good to opt for truancy at that time.
So when is your first day of actual classes?"

Okay, first I have to say to Allison, if she didn't know, that yes, we do have "church service" at school, (guess, why we are so pissed about this ridiculous religion...?)BUT I didn't know it continues to lukio, for GOODS sake?! ( -> didn't go there) I don't wanna start a conversation about this school thing, because I @#%$ hate it! I remember being sooooo jealous to my friends who had E.T. ;) Every morning some idiot was singing about jesus and blaablaablaa... I think it was really just horrible brainwash and simply not right. :mad: @#%$ m.utherf.uckers. - still angry -

[VauhtiParoni]

Laine: Suden uni was supposed to be released in limited vinyl too but you know Plasmatica... <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/ohwell.gif ALT=":\">

[Laine]

Sad. :(
How about Voimasta ja Kunniasta then?

[allissson]

No Valkyrievixen, I knew that there was religion class but not about church service. What happens to Heathen families when they send their kids to school? Does the school excuse the Heathen children from attending the service? Why don't some of these parents make some noise about this @#%$?

[Huurretursas]

Allison:

Anyone who doesn't belong to the church doesn't have to attend to the church services in school. Actually at least in my elementary we didn't even have any replacement activity. We just went straight to home, when those poor "christians" suffered :)

Actually the only christian stuff heathens and atheists have to listen to in school are the morning assemblies (though they're delivered through speakers) held in some schools, where every so often an worker of the local congregation comes to speak. Of course this has raised some objection but they've managed to keep the custom because other religions are also free to hold their own advertisement speeches. Unfortunately this does not happen nearly often enough and usually it's up to the students to arrange anyway.

[Hittavainen]

In our school(not lukio) the evil heathens who were'nt in the religion classes did not have to listen any morning assemblies. :) So we could come at school ten minutes later than 'those poor christians'. :)

[Laine]

We didn't:

1) Nobody ever had an idea IF a 'speech' would be kept in the morning
2) Nobody knew when it was going to be a christian one
3) Nobody was informed they wouldn't have to listen to it

[VauhtiParoni]

No vinyl at the moment.

[Draugrist]

My summer was fine, turned 18, drank too much and had the worst hangover of my life...

My last year in lukio started ok, didn't go to the church service, went to Hannibal the music bar, had a cider. It was nice...

[vladtroll]

On the school were I studie now.
There is no relegion @#%$.
In Holland there are more general schools.